I regard the generation of P.E.T, Apple II, TRS-80 as much superior for young (and old) folks 'cuse you could so easily teach them do something that THEY created, as opposed to running some precanned program that nobody - least of all the authoring team - understands.
Teaching some one using
a PET class machine type out:
Remember, you did not even have to buy/install a development kit, much less struggle to define project, understand the MAKE file system, GUI, and heaven only knows what.
Ed Thelen is a keen supporter of both the Computer History Museum and the DigiBarn having brought our PET 2001 series back to life and docent-ed at our grand opening.
Our Commodore PET 2001 series
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